Now anyone who has ever has ever 'survived' dealing with narcissists, especially those in a position of power over them and/or present in their childhood, probably knows what I am talking about.
In many cases ignoring or humoring them is very sound advice. This is especially true IMHO where their interaction with you doesn't undermine your authority in an appreciable way. In other words, some things just aren't worth getting riled up over risking a fight. However, I believe to someone who is an abuse/attack survivor, might find it hard to 'let it go' so to speak.
Her argument was that her dad could be a dominant personality and she was able to stand up for myself. I understand her point and was struggling to find a way to help her understand. I tried to find a way to answer why I react more passionately and get more upset when I am completely disrespected or controlled. I finally stumbled upon an idea. A table or stool with three legs is harder to collapse or flip over than those with fewer. That is to say the more destructive factors you've had in your life, the less likely it is that you'll be able to 'let it go'.
Consider it this way:
Consider it this way:
- When we think of a stool, we think of a handy product which can be used to hold us up when are reaching to get something we need. Imagine the stool instead of holding us up, is used to hold up our baggage up and 'in place'. Is that really a stool we'd want or is that a stool we'd want to see collapsed?
- We know a 3-legged stool or table is more sturdy or stable than those with fewer legs. From what I can see, abuse survivors don't just have 'abuse' in play. From personal experience, observations and talking with others, people who are ultimately abused are often vulnerable to abuse because of other factors--overbearing parents/adults in their formative years and bullying for example.
Anyway, here are three legs of the stool which holds up inability to shake off encounters with narcissists in adulthood:
* Overbearing parent or other authoritative adult figure during childhood.
* Bullying (verbal or menacing)
* Attack/abuse
Now, these three legs or factors aren't necessarily exclusive. That is to say the same person or persons can supply more than one leg of the stool. That is to say, a bully can also be an abuser/attacker and that the overbearing parent or adult can be the bully who abuses or attacks for example.
We hear all the time, back in the day if I talked back like that, my mom/dad would have beaten me. Sometimes the speaker might say how his/her voice was overrode by his/her parent, but that he or she eventually found his or her voice. As a parent myself, I have found that I sometimes have to be assertive and override voices of a child/children. Now, taken to the extreme that can be damaging and compel a kid to shut down or fear authority. I do believe in most cases kids do gain a measure of a voice (and sometimes 'too much'), but I digress. Like a one-legged stool/table, they can learn to easily push aside disrespect/lack of control later in life. That is to say, the baggage associated with 'not having a voice', if others negative factors aren't in play, can thrown off more easily in adulthood. As people of my generation understood, that's part of growing up.
Add the factor of being bullied in your formative years. Not only are you trying to seek their voice among adults in your life, but you are also trying to fend off those who would challenge their well-being and/or peace of mind. With authoritative adults in a child's life, we typically think that the adult figure has the child's interests in mind. In the case of a bully, for whatever reason, the bully typically doesn't tend to factor in the child's interest. For whatever reason, they bully feels that it is okay to pick on his or her target. Sometimes they don't care, but sometimes they can attempt to justify their behavior. They might claim that they are helping a kid learn how to deal. They might also that their 'victim' deserved it. Whatever their reasoning their behavior it can reinforce the inability of a child to shake off disrespectful (or controlling behavior) later in life. If you are so used to dealing with this sort of behavior, even minor 'bullying' in your adulthood can seem like more of the same (and hence hard to shake off). Like adding a second leg, it can strengthen the stool or table which holds up the anger, frustration and/or resentment which results from facing 'bullying' behavior later in life. A stool with two legs has some degree of stability, but is still by its nature can be collapsed relatively easily.
To someone who has just dealt with strict parents and maybe some bullying, but has never had to face the insecurity of abuse, a severe reaction to a narcissist can look like an overreaction. That is to say intense anger, frustration, resentment, etc. can look like an overreaction to a when dealing with a narcissist. I've dealt with the all three--CSA (childhood sexual abuse), bullying and an overbearing/controlling parent. As an adult, I've come to understand situations better than I did as a kid. However, I still am more inclined to, like a cat, arch my back, when I feel under threat or attack, 'hiss' and keep a wary eye open.
Hopefully, this gives more perspective on why some people can let attempts at abusive/controlling/bullying behavior slide, where others cannot. The more negative experiences you have had to deal with in life, the more likely you are to see are to see 'more of the same' when it comes to dealing with narcissists. It isn't just dealing with a jerk, it is dealing with someone who is a threat to your serenity (or at least it can feel like it).
Anyway, I'm tired when writing this, so hopefully, it does make some sense. Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.
Rich
Anyway, I'm tired when writing this, so hopefully, it does make some sense. Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.
Rich
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